30 Amp Sub Panel

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Well we don’t add breakers for the total. Your example a 30 amp feed with a 30/40/50 amp oven and a dryer would exceed the load calculations for a 30 amp feeder this is true a 50 amp oven alone would trip the 30 amp breaker if both elements were on. But I could put 5ea 20 amp 120v circuits and be fine even with the total being 100 amps of 120, how could this be? The actual load is what is used in the calculation and don’t forget 30 amps at 240 is 60 amps at 120.

Now to see if you can use some of your existing gear to do what you want. Check the size of existing sub panel if it is 60 amp or greater it is likely you can upsize the wire and breaker from the main (I would keep the gas dryer).

if you go with a oven at 40a or smaller a 60 amp sub could do this with what you have listed with the gas dryer.

Where you could run into problems is the 100 amp main with gas heat dryer and oven 100 amps is a no brainer.

But convert these gas over to electric and your service will need to be upgraded here is an example of the ovens I have measured they run ~38 amps, dryers 24 amps and both of these are 240v loads so right there you are at 62 amps of true load, add another 13 for lighting and outlets (13 amps each leg) in this “small area” and you are up to 75 amps of load at that level most electricians would be adding a 100 amp sub. Is the rest of your house only drawing only 25 amps? So with all you want sure it could be done and if you want to learn and your state allows it you can add the sub.

Many states allow you to even set your main panel. With code updates a new main panel that turns your existing main into a sub may be the best route, then pull from the new main or old main to feed the new area sub. Or sub of a sub.

Your question is quite broad and I tried to give you the info needed to decide if you can do it or hire it out

I think you already know the answer to this. While panels can be over-subscribed, what you are asking about is just too much. To put those loads on the sub-panel would probably also require upgrading the feed (wiring) and breaker from the main panel, as well as replacing the sub-panel. You didnt say how many spaces are available in the sub-panel, but I would guess not very many.

Would it be possible to put the largest loads (Range and Dryer) on the main panel? The runs might be longer, but at the end of the day, might be your least expensive option.

Pics and brands of the gear are helpful. IE: If its zinsco panel, wed have completely different advice! (LIKE RIP IT OUT).

If a “30/40/50A Oven” cicuit is contemplated, a 30A panel cant supply that unless its the only thing and 30A, not 40 or 50.

Honestly, with the amount you are proposing to provision, it seems dubious that your main panel at 100A has adequate power to spare, so you might be looking at a service upgrade if your incoming service is only 100A and you have “normal household loads” on that already.

You could quite reasonably consider a 100A subpanel, if you had power to feed it – that will (probably) require a service upgrade, and definitely require an upgrade of the wiring to the subpanel location and the subpanel itself.

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    FAQ

    How many breakers can you put in a 30 amp sub panel?

    The amount of current that is required for the connected loads can only be supported by a 30 Amp sub-panel. The maximum quantity of branch circuits can be determined with a load calculation. Two 15amp breakers or one 15amp and one 20amp can be used on a 30amp circuit.

    Can you run a sub panel off a 30 amp breaker?

    You need 10-gauge, three-conductor cable to wire a 30-amp subpanel. This cable has two hot wires (usually colored red and black), a white neutral wire and a ground wire, which is usually bare but could be green. It carries electricity at 240 volts, so you must treat it differently than regular 120-volt electric cable.

    What wire do I use for a 30 amp sub panel?

    From the NEC 210.12(B)(2) table we can clearly see that the 15A breaker can handle 12 amps, the 20A breaker can handle 16 amps, and the 30A breaker can handle 24 amps. At 120 volt, this will produce the maximum wattage of 1,440W, 1,920W, and 2,880W, respectively.

    How many amps can a 30 amp breaker handle?

    From the NEC 210.12(B)(2) table we can clearly see that the 15A breaker can handle 12 amps, the 20A breaker can handle 16 amps, and the 30A breaker can handle 24 amps. At 120 volt, this will produce the maximum wattage of 1,440W, 1,920W, and 2,880W, respectively.